The False religion

Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. {11:5} And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men built. {11:6} And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do…{11:9} Therefore is the name of it called Babel;

The word Babylon derives from the Gen 11 city of Babel. The men of Babel displeased God. It was God’s intent that men would multiply and spread out over all the earth. God’s plan was that they would trust in God’s provision and that each small group of people, each locality, would decide over its own affairs. His reason: If man would congregate in too a great number, they would become prideful in their achievements, and set themselves up to act independently from God . Such an attitude will drive them further and further away from God and into increasing depths of evil.

Their foolish pride was evident: “let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven”. What sensible man would presume that this tower would be unlimited in height? A man-made tower cannot possibly reach to heaven, it is foolishness to even try. But they nevertheless proceeded, as this tower was really for another purpose, it was a challenge to God. It’s like they were making a statement: ‘we are going to find our own way to heaven’, apart from You! In their foolish thoughts they imagined the possibility that they, by their labors, could get closer to heaven. The ‘tower of Babel’ is thus a picture man’s ambitions to attain their salvation. For us to attempt to rely on ourselves to reach God is just as foolish as attempting to build a tower to heaven. It can’t be done.

Overconfident of their own power, the men of the city used the tower as a symbol and a daily reminder that they were of the same mind, the same culture. Babylon is thus a picture of man-made religion, requiring symbols and achievements (works) for salvation, and seeking security through control of the culture of the day by imposing rules and rites.

Throughout history man has invented works based religions, whereby they foolishly thought they could work their way towards God and serve their own purposes at the same time. In the bible the term Babylon is often used to symbolize such attempts to reach God. It also represents man in defiance to God, continuing to do evil, but thinking that some sacrifice or payment would atone for it.

Refer to the link http://www.kjvprophecy.com/revelation_13.mp3 for a great explanation how true Christianity, represented by the Bride of Rev 19:7-8, 21:2, 21:9-10, is contrasted by the Whore of Revelation 17. For a pictorial representation of this end-time ‘Whore’, deceiving and controlling the nations, refer to Mystery, Babylon Rev 17    This is also represented in tabular form, in the Rev 17 study document, in Tables A to D: Refer 190914 Rev17 – Questions & Tables

For one explanation of the end-time conglomerate of evil comprising the beast, refer to the book “The culling of man” by Jeff Michael Thomas Hays. The Culling of Man – wordfile red1 and Whats going to happen red 2.

Revelation 17 contains a multitude of images, each which needs to be interpreted in the light of the rest of scripture. These images include the Whore, the City, Babylon, Kings, kingdoms, heads, mountains, waters and beasts. It will be inadequate to try and explain all these symbolic images in a blog-post. Because Revelation 17 is perhaps one of the most difficult chapters in Revelation to interpret, the links above have been given to you for further study. In addition, a PowerPoint study may be accessed by clicking the link Session 4B-2 Rev 17. Also refer to Appendix H.

We will therefore suffice with a dot-point list of our interpretations of the various Rev 17 symbols and  events, without accompanying them by an explanation. The explanations may be found in the above links.

In addition, refer to post 7.4 for a closer look at the Beast on a verse by verse basis.

The Whore, Kings, heads, mountains, waters and beasts:

Rev 17:1-3 1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sits upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.  Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou saw, where the whore sits, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

The Woman sits both on the scarlet colored BEAST having the 7 heads (v3), and on many waters (v1) which are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues (v15), and is that great city.(v18)

In this symbolic picture we have: (explanations supporting these interpretations are given in the links above.)

• The Whore: Is corrupted Christianity, with blasphemous signs, symbols, terms and representations of The God of the Bible.
• Fornication: Spiritual adultery, false religion, teaching, preaching, worship and doctrines.
• Sits on many waters: Controls or influences many people, nations, tongues.
• Beast: The Eight (& final) world empire (Rev 17;11). (Egypt, Assyria,Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece and the Roman empire were the previous 6 empires which influenced the known world – Europe/UN may be the 7th, which will ‘continue a short space” (v10). Ref Rev 12:3 re. the dragon’s (Satan) world empires. The beast represents the Pagan Priesthood and pagan world view through the ages culminating in the ‘Antichrist System.’
• Seven heads: Seven heads of the beast represent seven the mountains, or empires/peaks of power. Alternatively it may represent the 7 spheres of society that determine culture and which the woman controls. (Education, Religion, Family, Business, Government/Military, Arts/Entertainment, Media). The culture of the whore influences all nations of the 8th empire.
• Ten horns: The ten main political powers supporting and empowering the end-time world empire (the 8th,  the beast empire (v11)) and who are influenced by the whore.
• Drunk with wine: Spiritual stupor, kings and nations staggering blindly after the whore. (v2)

Further detail is now supplied in v4-6

v4″ And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in herhand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:{17:5} And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. {17:6} And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus”

• Her attire: Bishops and priests of corrupt religion are typically adorned ‘with gold and precious stones’, wearing garments’ purple and scarlet in colour”.
• Golden cup: Rites of corrupt religion typically use U- or V-shaped cups or articles to symbolize fertility, the womb, sexuality.
• Mystery, Babylon the Great: The great quest for a One-world system, as Babel attempted. Note Catholic means Universal. The Roman Catholic Church seeks to corrupt all other denominations with the view of weakening them and amalgamating them at the right moment to become one Universal church, which they control.
• Mother of Harlots: The Catholic Church’s corruptions of the gospel and the Word of God has given rise to many ‘little harlots’, denominations still holding to elements of catholic false teaching such as works-based salvation, access to God through intermediaries, baptism by sprinkling, transubstantiation, purgatory.(This includes some corrupt protestant movements, Jehovah’s witnesses, Mormons.)
• Abominations: Practices disgusting to God.
• Drunk with the blood of the saints: Taking demonic pleasure in the martyrdom of true believers (Discussed in detail later on in this post). History shows this to be the case with the catholic church, and some of its offspring. ( corrupt protestant movements.)

Note again, explanations supporting the above interpretations are given in the links above.

The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sits. {17:10} And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he comes, he must continue a short space. {17:11} And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes into perdition. {17:12} And the ten horns which thou saw are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. {17:13} These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

• Seven mountains ‘on which the woman sits’: Rome is called the ‘City of seven hills”. Thus the ‘woman sits’ in Rome, referring to the Roman Catholic church’s physical location, as well as symbolically referring to he influence over the seven mountains of culture. (see seven heads). The roman church has infiltrated Education, Religion, Family, Business, Government/Military, Arts/Entertainment, Media the (7 heads/mountains) through her agents the Jesuits, Masons and their subsidiaries.
  
• Seven kings: The five fallen ones and the concurrent sixth, refer to the previous empires (Ref ‘Beast’ above). The Rev beast is thus the ‘Eighth’.
• Continue a short space:  The final Empire will establish itself in 3.5 years, and be in control for a relatively short further 3,5 years.
  
• Beast that was and is not, even he is the eighth: If we consider the beast to be the Pagan Priesthood and pagan world view through the ages, this could be referring to the hidden nature thereof after Roman Emperor Constantine made Christianity the world religion. Paganism was thereafter hidden behing a christian facade. (i.e. the beast was not openly visible). So far the Beast is a system, but there will also its leader in the person of the antichrist, as the ‘the man of sin, the son of perdition’.(2Thess 2)
• Ten horns: ten horns represent the ten end-time powers giving their allegiance to the antichrist system, they are fully deceived and ‘are of the same mind’ as the Whore (see 10 kings)

 {17:15} And he saith unto me, The waters which thou saw, where the whore sits, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. {17:16} And the ten horns which thou saw upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. {17:17} For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. {17:18} And the woman which thou saw is that great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.

• waters: Links with verse 1 waters: The woman controls or influences many people, nations, tongues
  
• peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues: All countries have been ‘brain-washed’ and adopt the pagan worship and culture of the Whore.
• The 10 kings come to their senses, resent the whore (False world religion, catholic influenced) and destroy it.

That great city: …”the woman which thou saw IS that great city….”. v18.

This final verse pulls it all together. Physical Babel is that great first city, perpetuated in various guises through the ages. Babel, the Woman, symbolically represents man’s continued attempts at centralized control.  Men want to do it ‘my way’, not God’s way, and the globalists of today are no different. They disguise their attempts to create a centralized one world order under their control by using deceptive words and concepts, such as the ‘global village’, which we are meant to embrace.

These men will stop at nothing, they are as ruthless as Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin put together. These are demented men, reprobate, devoid of common humanity, willing to oppress and even slaughter millions to further their purpose.

Drunken with the blood of the saints.

17:4″ And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:..v6} And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus”

Note that this whore, representing false Christianity, has her priests clothed in purple and scarlet. In addition, they also love wearing jewellery, and are ‘decked with gold and precious stones and pearls‘. A ‘golden cup‘ is in their hands, representing their filthy corrupted rituals. What could this false religion be? Which christian movement has priests adorned with gold chains, pendants and rings, wearing purple and scarlet robes? The answer is obvious.

In addition,  the apostle Paul warns us against specific falsehoods: For example in 1 Timothy 4:1} Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; {4:2} Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; {4:3} Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats,…”. Which church requires their priests to be celibate? Paul requires the opposite: he requires bishops to be married:”3:2} A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant,…” Earlier on Paul also states that there is no mediator other than Jesus : “2:5} For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”. Which church introduces other mediators in direct conflict with the clear teaching of scripture? 

Jesus commands us not to pray like pagans. He says in Matt 6:7} But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do:” Which church does the opposite, to promote repetitive prayers, even using and selling beads for counting the number repetitions? Jesus also says: “{23:9} And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” Which church does the opposite, calling priests ‘father’ and the Pope “Papa”?

Referring to a  ‘faithful Baptist church’ sermon, the verses above paint a picture resembling the Roman Catholic church. She is all decked with gold and precious stones and pearls. The transcript of the sermon reads:

“Peter, who the Roman Catholic church claims was the first pope … the first bishop of Rome according to them … Peter when he was asked for money from a beggar said, “Silver and gold have I none. But such as I have, give I unto thee in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth take up thy bed and walk.” This is not what we see today in Catholicism. All the gold, the wealth, the precious stones, jewellery and all the lavish luxury that we see described here hides what’s inside, what is rotten inside. Just as a whore, who would be decked in beautiful pearls or makeup or jewellery, making her look good, hides what’s inside, which is rotten and wicked. That’s what the Roman Catholic church is. It’s all dressed up and looks beautiful, has the smells of incense and displays all the artwork and the paintings, but what you find inside is wicked and evil.

Then notice what it says in verse six, “I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus, and when I saw her I wondered with great admiration,”  Truly the Roman Catholic church has historically been drunken with the blood of the saints, of which the most famous is the Inquisition. The word inquisition means ‘to interrogate or investigate’. What the inquisition did was to investigate, to figure out, to determine who was a heretic and who not. By heretic they meant anyone who believed in things other than what the Roman Catholic church teaches. It is quite ironic that the Catholic Church, inventors of countless heresies, (refer to PDF: RC heresy list) would be the ones calling bible believing Christians ‘heretics’.

The Inquisition

The inquisition itself began in AD 1231, however, the idea of hunting for heretics, burning them at the stake, killing, torturing them goes all the way back to the very beginnings of the Roman Catholic church, in the 4th century AD. It even goes on before that, to the Roman Empire, which the Roman Catholic church is a continuation of in many ways. When we talk about what’s known as the inquisition, that officially began in 1231 AD and it went on until the early 19th century … the early 1800s in Spain and also in the New World. Even in Santa Fe, New Mexico. a heretic was put to death in the early 1800s. That would later become the United States of America … at the time it was not the United States … but nevertheless the inquisition was on American soil.

Spokesmen will often try to minimize the number of inquisition  deaths. You’ll hear Catholic apologists give deceptive numbers when stating the number of deaths via the inquisition, by doctoring the numbers. There were actually three different ways that you could put on trial for heresy during this time, of which the apologists would only quote one. The three procedures were:

• Number one, there were the local churches which could put someone on trial for heresy, torture you and kill them if they wouldn’t recant or were relapse heretics.
• Number two, there were the local civil authorities, who could put someone on trial for heresy. Just the civil government. Back then civil government was Catholic, they were devout Catholics and civil government had civil laws against heresy. In today’s terms, it would be similar to the police coming and arresting you for heresy, if they were Catholic-controlled.
• Number three, there was the actual over-arching Inquisition, an organization who could put you on trial, and put you to death.

What Catholic apologists do is to divide the deaths into those three categories and then just give you the recorded deaths of procedure number three, a relatively small number. “The inquisition only executed this many people on this year of that year,” they say. However, they omit what the local Catholic churches were doing, and the civil authorities. What the churches would often do, is that they would have a trial, declare someone a heretic, and ex-communicate them. Then that person would be turned over to the civil authorities and the civil authorities did the dirty work of actually brutally killing that person.  Catholic apologists then say: “Well, we didn’t do it. We just excommunicated them from the church,” but in reality they were working together as a team.

Now, what people will often say about the inquisition … They’ll to try and say, “Well, the inquisition wasn’t really that brutal because it only executed like 2% of people that were brought before them. 98% of people were not executed by the inquisition when they were brought before it, so therefore it was actually a very lenient institution.” This is what these Catholic apologists will try to say.

I listened to an eight-and-a-half-hour lecture by a guy named Thomas F Madden called “Heaven or Heresy,” and it was all about the Inquisition. I thought that this was going to be a neutral, scholarly treatment of the inquisition because he was just from some secular university somewhere. However, it became very clear that he was a hardcore Roman Catholic apologist, disguised as a scholar, just falling all over himself to explain why everything about the inquisition was totally justified, and that people are blowing it out of proportion. I mean literally, eight and a half hours of listening to this guy. It was as if the Roman Catholic church had done no wrong. He wouldn’t admit anything that they did wrong.

Intermediaries, wafers, infallibility and purgatory.

These Roman Catholic apologists down-play everything that was done. It truly made me sick to listen to this man justifying torture and murder, and what he would keep saying over and over again. He would say, “The people that were being put to death were only the most stubborn heretics, where even after the truth was explained to them, they just persisted in their heresy. Even after somebody explained to them why they were wrong, and the church was really patient. Patient to sit there and try to explain to these people why they were wrong, and it was only just these really stubborn believers were put to death because they wouldn’t change.”

Here is the thing about that. The things that they would often have to do to be delivered from being executed to prove that they are not a heretic, or to prove that they’re repenting of being a heretic, was that they would have to pray to saints. Most bible-believing Christians had the fortitude to refuse to pray to saints, because praying to saints is pagan and wicked and necromancy. Praying to human intermediaries is not biblical. Alternatively they would have to declare that the wafer that the priest holds up was actually transformed into Jesus’ body, and if they would not be willing to declare that it was, then they were a heretic, they were considered unrepentant, they were to be burned at the stake.

Some also had to state that the church of Rome was infallible. They had to state that the pope was infallible. Often they’d be required to give money to get souls out of purgatory and state that they believed in purgatory. (refer to PDF: RC heresy list for a number of other false beliefs one could be asked to agree to)

Standing on the Word of God.

Such demands would make all bible believing Christians ‘heretics’. We would have to oppose each demand, making all bible believing Christians ‘stubborn’, according to Roman Catholicism. None of the above are things that we believe in, so all of us would be heretics. Scripturally, when put in this position, as a Christian, the Lord expects us to go to our death. He expects us to stand on the Word of God, he expects us not to deny him, he expects us not to give in to these types of demands and so we … if we’re actually following the word of God, would have been those stubborn heretics.

Look what the Bible says in Revelation 2:10, “Fear none of those things which thou shall suffer. Behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison that you may be tried and ye shall have tribulation ten days. Be thou faithful unto death,” the Bible says, “and I will give thee a crown of life. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcomes shall not be hurt of the second death. And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which has the sharp sword with two edges; I know thy works, and where thou dwells, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou hold fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwells”

Clearly the Bible commands us to be faithful onto death in the face of this kind of opposition and torment. Go to Revelation chapter 12. Let me say this. Of course if a person were to blaspheme Christ by praying to saints or saying that the stupid cracker that the priest holds up really is Jesus or worship idols, that person would not lose their salvation because it is impossible to lose your salvation. Once you believe on Jesus Christ you have eternal life, and so we’re not talking about losing your salvation here, if under torture you were to say these blasphemous things that the Roman Catholic church was demanding that you would say.

Even Peter himself denied the Lord. That doesn’t make you lose salvation … you can’t lose your salvation. God gives us eternal life. He’ll never leave us or forsake us. Nothing can separate us from the love of God. We’ve been passed from death onto life. We shall not come to condemnation but yet God wants us to stand up and be faithful onto death and the right testimony is to be faithful onto death and it would be a grievance sin to be like Peter and deny the Lord or to deny the doctrines of the faith.

Look at Revelation chapter 12 verse 10, “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven “Now comes salvation and strength in the kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ for the accuser of our brethren is cast down which accuse them before our God day and night and they overcame him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony and they love not their lives onto the death.”

Go back to Daniel chapter three and read the story of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego which is a very applicable story because here they’re being asked to bow down to idols and that’s exactly what the Roman Catholic church wants you to do. Bow down to idols. That’s what many of these so called heretics often had to do in order to be reinstated with the Roman Catholic church. They had to get onto their knees and bow to some saint which is just an idol which is not someone they were supposed to pray to. Thou shall worship the Lord thy God and him only shall thou serve, the Bible says but it says in Daniel chapter 3 verse 12, “The certain men whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

Then Nebuchadnezzar in his rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Then they brought these men before the king. Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up? Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of music, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?.” Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego answered and said to the king, “Oh, Nebuchadnezzar. We’re not careful to answer thee in this matter. If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace and he will deliver us out of thy hand oh king but if not,” look at that statement. “But if not be known unto thee oh king, we will not serve thy gods nor worship the golden image which thou has set up.”

Here they could have just dropped to their knees and said, “Well, in my heart I’m praying to God even though I’m in front of an idol when I dropped to my knees.” But they took a stand and they were willing to die for what they believed in and the Bible says, even onto us in the New Testament, “Be thou faithful onto death and I will give thee a crown of life.” This is what God expects.

I don’t believe that Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were the only ones who were saved out of everybody in the whole province of Babylon but they were the ones who had the guts to take the stand and to go to the fiery furnace. They didn’t know that they were going to be saved. They even said, if not … if God doesn’t save us we’re still not going to bow down to your false god.

Let me just go through the basics of what the inquisition entailed. The inquisition … and again we already talked about the fact that the local churches and the civil authorities were also enforcing this stuff … but the inquisition was basically a travelling heresy-hunting organ of the Roman Catholic church so the inquisitor would show up to town and the first thing that he would do is he would get everybody together and preach a sermon and he preached a sermon about heresy and the dangers of heresy and how we need to expose the heresy. Then he would declare a 30-day grace period. Usually it’s about 30 days of grace period and during this 30-day grace period, if you turned yourself in as a heretic or that you’d been a heretic or been guilty of some of the things that they’re trying to expose then you’d receive leniency and mercy or if you ratted out your friends during the grace period you’ll receive leniency.

Later if it’s found that you knew about people who were heretics and didn’t tell them, you’re beyond the grace period now. Then you’re going to be dealt with severely and harshly by the inquisition. You can imagine that obviously this just creates a whole bunch of false confessions and false accusations because people want to get in under that grace period so they’re thinking, “Man, are all my beliefs legit or are they all orthodox? Have I been going to mass enough or is there someone in town who just doesn’t like me that could accuse me of something?”

A lot of people would just confess to stuff that they didn’t even do just to get it over with because if they confess, “Yup. I’ve been into heresy,” then they’d get something lenient like sometimes they just had to wear around a big yellow cross to show like, “Hey. I use to be a heretic,” and they had to wear that for a while or a red cross and in the Spanish it was known as a San Benito that they’d have to wear the penitential garb around. This is where later in Nazi Germany you had the star that they would wear. That actually goes back to also the inquisition. The yellow crosses and the yellow star that they would have to wear around in the inquisition.

The bottom line is that it led to all kinds of false accusations, false confessions because they’d be given just mild punishments of just a short imprisonment or, “Make a pilgrimage over here. Go on a crusade over here. Wear around a yellow cross for a while,” then at least you’re saving your skin from the horrors of what could happen to you after the grace period is over.

After the grace period is over, when people are accused they often didn’t know even what they’re been accused of. They weren’t always told, “Hey, this is what you’re been accused of,” or “This is who accused you.” There is no facing of the accuser and many times these people would be tortured … and in fact you can read transcript after transcript because the inquisition kept very detailed records in many cases where they have a word by word, even giving you every moan and groan out of the people’s mouths as they’re been tortured. What they said and as you read this stuff you’ll read things like where people are being tortured and they’re begging for mercy and they’re just literally saying over and over again, “I don’t know what to say. I don’t know what to … I don’t even know what you’re accusing me. What do I confess? What do you want me to confess? What do you … Stop it. What do you want me to say?” That’s how it reads reading these transcripts.

They don’t even know what they’re been … because they just tell them, “Hey. Search your heart and tell us what you did? What’s the heresy you’ve been into?” And they reply, “I don’t even know.” These people might have even been devout Catholics in many cases. They were being falsely accused. Now this lecturer … Thomas F Madden … this is an evil, sick person because this is what he says, “Torture was something that they would use to get at the truth. In our modern time we have these views about personal rights and respecting people’s rights but back then they were more interested in the truth. They would actually think we were really unjust the way we’re constantly just letting guilty people go free. They wanted to get to the truth and so torture was a way to get to the truth”

Then he tried to downplay the torture and say, “They would only torture people just for a very short time. Usually it was like five minutes,” he says. “Like five minutes that they’d be tortured, maybe fifteen but it wasn’t some big, long drawn out thing,” and he says it just so calmly, “It wasn’t a big deal,” and he said often they found that it was a lot more effective not necessarily to torture the person who was actually being accused but to actually torture the person’s friends and the people that knew them because he said, “Sometimes if you’re torturing the person who did it or is accused of doing it, if he confessed to some of this stuff, they would end up being executed if they were a lapsed heretic for example or were involved in serious heresy so there wasn’t really a big motivation for them to confess because if they confess they are going to die in many cases.

Now of course many people, if they confess they get off with lighter punishment so in cases like that, they would torture people who weren’t even accused of anything just for not testifying against that person so they’ll get your friend or your relative and torture them just to get at the truth though. The Catholics, they love to go on and on about how this was only to get information that wasn’t otherwise available what they do was kind of torture and they said that it was never used as a punishment. Scared me there for a second. It was only to get information out of people. Thank heavens and he tries to down play it and in eight and a half hours this Catholic devil who justifies torture and murder, he only lists … in eight and a half hours of talking about the inquisition … he only lists one torture method and he tries to downplay it and try to down play it and make it sound like it’s not a big deal.

Listen, I’m going to keep the sermon mild tonight because I don’t want to horrify small children or anything. The stuff that I’m censoring, huge amounts of stuff from this sermon that is just so horrific I’m not even going to bring it up in the presence of children. If you want to get all the gory details, Foxe’s book of martyrs is one book that you could read, that just goes on and on, just case after case, with all the gory details. I’m not going to get really gory but I’m going to mention a little bit about the torture just to give you a feeling of what we’re talking about.

The Bible talks about it in Hebrews 11, people being stoned and sawn asunder and it said others were tortured not accepting deliverance that they might obtain a better resurrection.  But here is what this lecturer describes as the usual torture method. He tries to downplay it and make it sound like it’s not that bad. He said, “Basically they just put a rope on the person’s wrist and put it behind their back like this and suspend them from the ceiling where they’re basically hanging like this and it’s pulling their arms behind their back and they do that for five minutes and …” and he downplays it like it’s not a big deal.

Here is what he doesn’t tell you and plug your kid’s ears if you don’t want them to hear this. Here is the part he doesn’t tell you. What he doesn’t tell you is that when they would do that to the person, it would rip the arms out of the shoulder joints completely out of socket and blood would come out of the person’s mouth. That is the part that they don’t tell you in their little Catholic lecture. What they don’t tell you is that after someone went through that torture, that person would be crippled and diseased for the rest of their life. That’s what they conveniently leave out.

In the modern scholar lecture series “Heaven or Heresy” by Thomas F Madden … this is not a scholar. He’s a Roman Catholic, devil-worshiping idolater who thinks torture and murder are fine. That’s what he is. Do you think that’s fine to do that to somebody? Somebody who’s not even condemned of anything, someone who hasn’t even been found guilty, someone who’s just maybe not even wiling to testify against someone else? They would this to them and this is what they’ll do. They’ll do it one time and this is just one method and that’s probably the mildest method I could mention from the pulpit without horrifying children. They’ll do it one time and then according to Roman law … even before Roman Catholic church existed and this continued into the Roman Catholic church … any confession that’s made under torture or any testimony that’s made under torture, they have to make again when they’re not being tortured. Here is why. Because when people are being tortured they’ll pretty much say anything. That’s why it doesn’t get to the truth.

Torture brings out lies because people will say anything to make it stop. They don’t even care what they’re saying. After the torture is over, then they would say, “Now we need to say that again now that you’re not being tortured,” and if the person would say, “Well, you know what, I lied. I just said that because you were torturing me and I wanted you to stop.” Well, during these torture sessions they always had a physician there so the physician would put their bones back in joint, get all the bones back in their sockets, get everything put together, make sure the person’s not going to die and then they’ll do it a second time and get the person to say it again and then if the person after the second time through says, “Hey. I lied again. You guys were torturing me. I didn’t really mean that.” Usually they’d only do it two or three times because they’re so lenient.

Then the person walks away crippled and maimed and diseased for the rest of their life because their bones have been ripped out of their sockets and so forth. This is what they failed to tell you. They make it sound like, “You just go through five minutes of the worst pain and then it’s over. Then it’s behind you.” First of all, going through these types of intense pain, even for 15 minutes does brain damage that is irreparable. You hear about people even getting PTSD just from being in scary situations or going through pain and things but going through that kind of pain for an extended period of time does brain damage. Your body just can’t handle it. You go into shock but not only that, these people were often physically maimed and physically had wounds and infections and were just deformed and crippled after this thing for the rest of their life.

That doesn’t go into the statistic of how many people they killed. You see these numbers and you say, “Well, it’s only like a million people that you murdered. They only murdered one or two million people during the dark ages. That’s all,” or they’ll try to downplay it, “It’s only a few hundred thousand people.” Yeah, except that 98% of the people aren’t in that figure because they didn’t kill them. They just tortured, maimed them or even if the people didn’t get tortured and maimed you know what they did to them? They forced them to accept the Catholic church and Catholic doctrine. How many souls did they damn by forcing people to be Catholic and telling them, “Hey, you can’t even listen to the gospel. You can’t even listen to heretics.” By the way heretic is somebody who believes salvation is by faith alone.

Now, true a heretic could be other things that are heresy like people who deny the deity of Christ or there was a guy who brought before the inquisition in Santa Fe, New Mexico for performing a wedding ceremony between two dogs. Yes, there are some weirdos for sure but the point is though bible-believing Christians are in that category of being a heretic so-called by the Roman Catholic church.

What about all the people who are forced to deny the gospel, deny the truth of scripture and sign on to a bunch of superstitious hocus pocus and yeah, if they were already saved they didn’t lose their salvation but they displeased the Lord by doing so but not only that though, what about all the people who just didn’t get to hear the gospel because of just the fear and the terror caused by the inquisition for almost a thousand years where people are just afraid to even switch, to even look at the other side of what the scripture says. “Hey, we better just stay Catholic. We better just listen to what the priest says. We don’t want to be the next guy being tortured or being burned at the stake or whatever.”

By the way, the lovely torture method that he tries to justify and say isn’t that bad, this was done by the United States to a guy in Iraq in the Abu Ghraid prison. They tortured a guy like this to get some information from him and he died as a result of having that torture take place. He actually suffocated because it messes with your breathing and a lot of people would have permanent respiratory trouble after that kind of torture. He actually died as a result so that torture can easily kill you. That’s why they had to have a doctor standing by, making sure that you stay alive throughout the torture.

Water boarding is a cruel and unusual punishment which … guess where it came from. You’re not going to believe this. The Spanish inquisition.

In the Spanish inquisition, a towel was used, water was poured on the nose. They went through basically the water boarding procedure in the Spanish inquisition. The United States government water boarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183 times in one month. Did you hear that? They water boarded … this is on the record. They openly admit to this. He’s often known as KSM … Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was water boarded 183 times in one month alone and they’ve been people who try to say, “Water board is not torture.. It’s like in your head dumped under water.”

There was a conservative radio host named Mann Calmoler in Chicago and he said, “Water boarding is not torture.” He wanted to prove it to everybody so he went on live TV and submitted to water boarding and he put a little toy cow in his hand as sort of like an eject button where when he can’t take it anymore, he throws the cow out of his hand to let them stop … which by the way people that were being tortured in the inquisition, they were being tortured by the US government, they didn’t have that option. They didn’t give them that … “Hey is a toy cow so you can drop it when you can’t take it any more.” They water boarded Mann Calomoler and literally, the guy … I don’t even know if he lasted 10 seconds. He didn’t last at all. It’s just a few seconds and the guy’s thrown in the cow and he says right there … because you got to get his reaction right there when it’s happening. He says, “I don’t want to admit this but it’s torture.” He says, “It’s the worst thing I’ve ever experienced,” and he said, “If I would have known how bad it was, I wouldn’t even have done it.”

Thank God he at least admitted that he is wrong but what choice does he have when the cow is just getting hurled immediately. He had to tell the truth at the point. Of course it’s torture. The reason our government likes this particular brand of torture is that it doesn’t permanently disfigure someone where people would look at it and be horrified like, “Wow. What did you do?” Here is the thing. I guarantee you that that guy has completely lost his mind after being water boarded that many hundreds of times. That was one month and you will lose your mind. The human mind can only take so much of that kind of abuse. People will go crazy and lose their mind.

Anyway, look at Acts chapter 25. Again, just to understand what we mean by the inquisition, this is an institution set up by the Pope, set up by the Roman Catholic Church. It officially started in 1231 AD. Then the Spanish inquisition is the most famous. That started at the end of the 15th century around the time that Columbus sailed the ocean blue because if remember it was King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain that sent Columbus on his journey. They actually were the ones in power that set up the Spanish inquisition actually. Ferdinand and Isabella, they set the thing up in the late 15th century, late 1400s and the Spanish inquisition went on until the early 1800s in places even like Brazil and Mexico and even Santa Fe, New Mexico and all manner of new world places because the inquisition came over with the Spaniards and with the Portuguese both because the Portuguese inquisition was similar.

Then there was what was known as the Roman inquisition that mainly dealt with Italy and the Roman inquisition was something that came about during the Protestant reformation mainly targeting protestants. Now, when you bring this kind of stuff up … and I just wanted to show verse 16 there where you’re on Acts 25, “To whom I answered, It is not the manner of the Romans to deliver any man to die before that he which is accused have the accusers face to face, and have licence to answer for himself concerning the crime laid against him.”

This is the Apostle Paul demanding his rights and saying, “Look, wait a minute. We don’t do that in the Romans’ land. We have to have the accuser face to face and he should be able to answer the accusation.” This is a basic tentative justice that the inquisition did away with in many cases, where you didn’t even know who is accusing you, so how can you answer to an accusation when you don’t have the accuser face to face and  don’t know who is accusing you.

Now, it’s amazing. I don’t want to get off on too much of a rabbit trail with this but there are so many things that we have today in the United States that come from the inquisition. I mentioned to you just about how some of the same torture methods are even being used today but not only that, the concept of using prison as a long-term punishment that actually also comes out of the inquisition because most of the time in ancient history a prison or jail was a temporary holding cell until a person would be tried and condemned and then they would receive a temporal punishment. This idea of sentencing people to long prison terms … years and years in prison … that comes from the inquisition. Also in ancient times, in order for someone to be charged with the crime there had to be an accuser, and if you study the Old Testament, there is an accuser that comes forth and says, “Hey. I’m accusing this person,” and that person has to publicly accuse them and then there are punishments for falsely accusing someone, bearing false witness against your neighbor.

Well, the Roman Catholic Inquisition gave us this innovation of instead of an accuser coming after you with a crime, it’s the society in general. The State versus. That’s how crimes are now. The State versus Steven Anderson. State of Arizona versus Steven Anderson. Where is there no … and you’re like, Well who is the plaintiff? Who is the accuser and there isn’t one because it’s all victim-less crimes and just the plaintiff is the state. That actually comes out of the inquisition as well. That concept of not needing an accuser but just having just a general “you’re an offence to society. It’s society versus you or the town versus you. The nation versus you. The church versus you,” or whatever.

Some of these unjust things have crept into our legal system. If we stuck with the Bible Old Testament’s justice system we would still have the accusers necessary, we would still have a legal system that didn’t imprison people and do all these things that are not biblical. Where did I have you turn? Are you still in Acts 25? Go to Hebrew chapter 11 if you would. Hebrews chapter 11.

Let me say this, when you present someone with this information and they are the type that want to defend the Roman Catholic Church, one of the biggest things that you’ll hear over and over again from Catholics is, “Oh yeah. The Protestants did the same thing. Here is where the Protestants tortured a Catholic” or “Here is where Protestants murdered people over here,” but here is the thing about that. The Protestants learned it from the Catholics. If you look at what the Protestants are, they’re basically 90% Catholic. I call Protestants Catholism like. I’m not a Protestant, I’m a Baptist. I’m not Catholic like. I’m not a Protestant Catholic. I’m not a Catholic at all. I don’t believe in the Universal Church. I believe in local churches and so as independent baptist I don’t go on calling myself Protestant. Methodist are Protestants, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Anglicans. They’re the Protestants so telling me that, “These Protestants over here, they use torture and they burn people at the stake.” Of course they did because they are almost like Catholics in many cases.

There are varying degrees of Protestant. I believe that there are Protestants that are saved because they are varying degrees of how Roman and paganised they are, or how much into gospel they really are. Protestantism does at least to say that salvation is by faith and that the scripture alone is authoratative … sola scriptura, sola fide, sola gratia … but in practice that’s often not really what they believe. Most of them are a bunch of baby baptizers and pagans. That doesn’t work as an explanation because two wrongs don’t make a right.

How can you sit there and say, “Yeah, we tortured people. Yeah, we murdered a million people but so did the Protestants, so did these people,” or they’ll point to England in 18th century had the death penalty for stealing a shilling but here is the thing about that. This idea of everybody is doing it, or this is what they’ll say, “Well, back then that’s what the world was like back then. Everybody did it back then.” Here is why that doesn’t fly because we have the Bible here which is from before back then and it doesn’t have any of that. If we read the Old Testament, we read about the nation of Israel, we read the New Testament and we don’t see this junk then how can you sit there and say that everybody is doing it.

No, the Bible said that if you steal you pay four-fold. It doesn’t say death for stealing. This, “Oh, everybody was doing it,” and then you try to tell the Muslims that Mohammed was a pervert for marrying a nine-year old and then they’ll say, “Everybody was doing it in that area at that time.” No, they weren’t. It’s a stupid logic of just, “He did it too.” It’s like if you caught a toddler, “You were eating out of the cookie jar.” “So did he.”

Now you say, “Wait a minute Pastor Anderson. Why are you making the Catholic church own up to stuff that they didn’t do? That was hundreds of years ago. That wasn’t the current Catholics. That wasn’t Pope Francis. That was a different Pope,” but here is the thing that you have to understand. The whole point of being a Catholic is that you believe that the church is the authority and that the church is infallible and that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth. Here is the thing. In order to be Catholic and really believe that the church of Rome is the pillar and ground of the truth, you have to justify all this stuff because if you’re going to say, “Well, the church was just completely out of lurch for a thousand years and massacring innocent people, then you’d be admitting that the church is wrong and then you’d actually go to the Bible and read it for yourself and then you’d be baptist.

Catholics will tell you. You can’t read the Bible on your own. That’s a private interpretation. The church will tell you but is the church the pillar and ground of the truth, when they taught lies,tortured innocent people and had no sense of justice throughout this whole process? Look, the reason why the Catholic church should have this pinned on them today is because they still won’t admit that they were wrong. They still justify it to this day. Let me give you an example. I was listening to an audio book this week. Part of the preparation I did a lot of reading for this sermon and one of the things I went through was a Catholic apologist. “Seven Lies that Are Told About the Catholic Church” by this woman Dianne Moschar, here is what she says at the end of the chapter on the inquisition.

“Were there cruel inquisitors in some places? Of course. Were methods of interrogation distasteful to modern sensibilities? Sure, but given it’s formidable task of guarding the purity of the faith in Christian souls…. However, the overall record of the inquisition in dealing with heresy is not only defensible but admirable.”

Those are the last words of the chapter on the inquisition. Its not just defensible … it’s not something that we can just defend when our non-Catholic friends confront us about it. She said, no. It’s admirable. We should admire. That kind of reminds me of when I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus I wondered with great admiration. It’s admirable. No, what was admirable was the saints giving their lives. What’s admirable was those who lost their lives not onto the death and were faithful to Christ onto the death and they laid out their life for the cause of Christ. That will cause us to wonder with great admiration. She has great admiration for torture. She says that, “Okay. The methods of interrogation were distasteful.” You call that distasteful when somebody’s joints are being ripped out of their sockets and they’re literally being torn apart … and look. We’re not even getting into the worst methods here. I’m going with the mildest methods.

Read Foxe’s book of martyrs. It’s just crazy the stuff that they did. It’s unbelievable. You say, “Everything that’s in there is not really true.” Okay. Is any of it true because if one tenth of it is true then the Roman Catholic Church must be the most satanic wicked institution that’s ever existed on this planet. If one tenth of what’s in Foxe’s book of martyrs and most of what’s in there is well … all the stuff for the modern era … 1300s, 1400s, 1500s, 1600s … all that stuff … modern to them when it was written I mean … is all really well documented.

When they talk about the ancient world, some of it is legend. I would skip chapter one in Foxe’s book of martyrs because it’s all just legend from a thousand years ago but all the stuff that they document, they give the dates, they give the people’s names, they give the story, they give all the facts, all the gory, gruesome details … if you have a strong stomach whip it up. It used to be the best selling book in England, second only to the Bible. In fact it was on the pulpit of virtually every church in England at one time. They had a Foxe’s book of martyrs and a Bible and they’d read from it in sermons. This is something that kept England from going back into Catholicism. This is because there was a constant pressure to bring them back into Catholicism but let me say this. The Roman Catholic Church is and always has been a satanic, wicked institution that is rotten to it’s core and if it was rotten at the core then, then it’s rotten at the core now whether they’re still doing it today.

Proverbs chapter five. It’s the same church folks. They brag about how, “Your church was just founded 10 years ago. Faithful were a Baptist Church. Our church goes back 2000 years. The apostle …” No. Your church goes back even further to the tower of Babel. Your church goes back even further to Cain who killed his brother Abel and spilled his blood on the ground because his own works were evil and his brother’s were righteous. You can trace your religion all the way back to Cain. You can trace it all the way back to every wicked tyrant that’s ever lived on this earth and this wicked evil spirit of the lust for power and the lust for blood and carnage.

If the Catholic church was a great whore and a wicked institution then, it’s a wicked institution now because even though they’ve changed somethings on the surface, they’re still saying, “What we did was admirable. What we did was right,” and not only that but they’re claiming, “we have a succession of true, men of God, Popes ordained by God all the way back to the beginning.” That would include all the Popes that presided over and invented and came up with all these stuff.

What’s ironic is that the Pope today, Pope Francis would be burned at the stake as a heretic himself because he’s sitting there and saying, “Atheists are saved,” The Catholic church has changed. They’ve changed. Now there are some people today that just have this weird idea that we’re still living in the protestant reformation and so they think that the Roman Catholic Church is exactly as it was then and that they’re still doing all this stuff. Well, they’re not.

All religions paths to God?

Here is the thing, the Catholic church has gone into a different phase now of the devil’s plan where now instead of saying, “You have to be Catholic or we’re going to burn you at the stake.” Now they’re saying, “All religions are paths to God.” That’s what they’ve morphed into now. With their Vatican two council and they say now that the Jews didn’t really kill Jesus. That was just a big mix up and they’re saying that, “now we want to reach out to Muslims and Jews.” Pope Francis said even Atheist are going to heaven as long as they do good works. Did you hear him say it? I heard him say it and I understand Spanish too so I heard him say stuff even in the original language … in Espanyol. He was saying it. Papa.

He basically is this ecumenical guy who trying to bring in the new world order of a global religion … one world religion is what he is pushing for ecumenicalism but they are still claiming that from day one they have been the bastion of truth. The one true church they say. No. They have been a filthy, demonic, cruel, evil, implacable, unmerciful whore. The great whore about drunken with the blood of the saints. The sadistic inquisitors and all the people that participated in it.

Let’s just look at some scriptures. I’m just going to close on this. Some scriptures about the whore because if we go back to proverbs I believe that the Bible is painting the Roman Catholic Church there as a great whore. As one who is decked in gold, precious stones, pearls, drunken with the blood of the saints et cetera. Well, look at what the Bible has to say about a whore and tell me if this applies to the Roman Catholic Church … because listen, it’s still the same whore that it’s always been. It might have changed it’s makeup design, changed it’s ensemble.

It used be a more vibrant whore that had more customers, more of the kings of Europe and more clout. Now it’s an old dirty toothless whore, it’s what it has become but it’s still the same whore … still the same filth and it still has no repentance for the sins of it’s past days and it has it’s own new sins that’s into of ecumenicalism and whatever else.

Look at Proverbs 5:3, “For the lips of a strange woman drop as a honey comb and her mouth is smoother than oil,” it’s about a whorish woman, “but her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword. Her feet go down to death. Her steps take hold on hell. Less thy should ponder the path of life or ways are movable that thou can not know them.”

You see, the Roman Catholic Church has changed it’s doctrine over the years. You think that they have taught and believed the same things since day one? No, they’re constantly bringing in new weird doctrines of “We just came out with a doctrine.” What. In the 20th century. Is that when they came out with Maria [inaudible 01:00:51]? Yeah, that’s German but when they came out with this thing of Maria didn’t die. She ascended to heaven.

That was a bunch of papal bull from the 20th century that they came out with. Speaking ex-cathedral or whatever. They’re constantly coming out with new doctrines and if you studied the history of the Roman Catholic Church, they’ve changed doctrines and come out with a .. just like now the Pope today doesn’t sound anything like a Medieval Pope. Same whore but their ways are movable. They’ve changed their doctrine.

Look at chapter seven verse seven. Tell me if this applies to the great whore of the Catholic church. “Her house is the way to hell going down to the chambers of death.” How about chapter nine verse eighteen … these are all about the whorish woman and they have a spiritual application for the Roman Catholic Church, “But he knoweth not that the dead there and that her guests are in the depths of hell.”

Not Christianity

I’m here to tell you tonight that Roman Catholism is not Christianity. It is not the true church. It never has been the true church. I don’t care if you want to go all the way back to some proto Catholic church father from the second century AD. He was still a liar. Still a heretic. Still a fraud. Even John himself who was living in the same generation with people who’d walked and talked with Christ. He walked and talked with Christ. He is preaching to people, many of whom received Christ. He said, “Even now are there many anti-Christs, many false prophets are gone out into the world,” he said.

Let me tell you something. That they have always been wicked, always being apostate, always been a whore, always been sorcerers and always been idolitarists, pagans and they’ve never been the true church and there is no salvation in that church and the guests are in the depths of hell today. Her house is the way to hell. It’s a one-way ticket to hell in that Roman Catholic Church. That’s what you get from eating that cracker. That’s what you get from doing all this kind of stupidity and superstitious pagan nonsense. Why don’t you go get a rabbit’s foot while you’re at it. Get your little rabbit’s foot and your beads and, “Hail Mary full of grace,” swinging those beads all over the place. Swing them high, swing them low. Swing them Mary. Go, go.

You say, “That’s blasphemy.” I blaspheme the Catholic church tonight. I despise the Catholic church. I defy the Catholic church. May the Catholic church rot and Hallelujah. Let her smoke go up forever and ever. Wicked but we need to reach Catholics with the gospel. It’s not their fault. 90% of Catholics don’t even know what they believe. Hello. 90% of Catholics or more, they don’t even know what they believe and thank God Catholics are some of the easiest people to win to the Lord. Why? Because they don’t know what they believe so you walk up and show them from the Bible and many times they will be saved and reject that superstitious hocus pocus and you know why they even had to have an inquisition in the first place? Because Catholics are so easy to get saved.

It’s so easy to disprove their foolish religion, that’s why they had to suppress everything, they had to burn all the books. That’s why they have to persecute and try to stop people from telling them. Sadly, Hispanics are predominantly Catholic. There is a reason why today Hispanics are Catholics and here is the reason why. The Spanish inquisition. That’s why friend. You want to know why Mexico is so given to idolatry and Catholism? It’s for one reason, because of the Spanish inquisition because all throughout Europe when people are preaching the gospel all over Europe and people are preaching that salvation is by grace through faith and they were not only Protestants but there were Baptists and other people that are just opening the Bible and reading it and believing in it and preaching it.

You know why that never really took on in Spain like it took on everywhere else? It’s because the Spanish inquisition. People were too scared to bring the gospel into Spain. They’re too scared to send a missionary into Spain, too scared to get up and start preaching the truth because the Spanish inquisition had them terrified. That came over with the Spaniards into Mexico with the Portuguese into Brazil, all throughout the new world. That same fear and terror of, “Hey. You better not bring that doctrine over here. We’re Catholic,” and as a result even in 2016, most of the Mexican people are in the darkness of Roman Catholism. Yet all of South America is in darkness today spiritually and they have that great idol … that great molten image outside of Rio de Janiero of that long-haired hippie that they call Jesus who is not the Jesus of the Bible.

I’m telling you, we need to reach these people with the light of the glory … Thank God the inquisition is over. Whatever the conspiracies out there tell you and some conspiracies are true and some are false but the inquisition is over. Just so you know. It ended in the early 1800s. That means we can go and freely preach the gospel. We can even go to Spain itself and preach the gospel. We can go to Brazil, we can go to Mexico. We could go down the street and preach the gospel to Catholic Hispanics and win them onto the Lord. With the tear in the eye, with the gospel in hand, with the love of Christ in our hearts.

It’s not their fault. A lot of people that hear a sermon like this, they’re like, “Hey, you hate Catholics.” No I don’t. I love Catholics. My wife was raised Catholic but you know what, she’ll be the first to tell you that she’s glad that she got out of that hocus pocus religion because it’s false. We need to preach the glorious gospel to Catholics and don’t ever come up to me with this junk of “Well, Catholics are Christians too.” If I had a nickel for every time I had somebody tell me this, I would be a wealthy me. “I know this guy who is a Catholic priest and he actually preaches the gospel and he is trying to win people to the Lord from within the Catholic church.” Baloney. His guests are in the depths of hell. What a fraud. There is no salvation in that rotten church.

The only way that I would believe that anyone who goes to a Catholic church is saved is if they’re being brought there against their will. Anybody who chooses to go to that place and says, “I want to go,” and listen to this mumbo jumbo and see the guy throw a bunch of poof dust around and hand out a bunch of saltines and whatever. You know what, anybody who willingly goes to that place and says, “This is a true church. This is my church.” That person is going to hell because that’s not the gospel. The gospel is salvation by faith alone and that’s not what the Catholic teaches. The Catholic church teaches salvation through the sacraments of confessing to the priest and going through all the rituals and whether it is baptism, whether it is cataclysm, confirmation, the last rights. That stuff can’t get you to heaven.

The Catholic church is false. If somebody is being dragged there by their wife, then they need to man up and pick her up and put her over their shoulder and take her down to the baptist church. If they’re being dragged there by their husband, if they’re being dragged there by their parents, okay that person very likely could be saved but anybody who just chooses, “I’m going to the Catholic church,” they’re not a Christian because Jesus said, “My sheep hear my voice. They don’t follow strangers. They know not the voice of strangers. They know the voice of the shepherd,” and there is nothing stranger than that Catholic mass.

If you have the Holy Spirit living inside of you, the Holy Spirit is going to reveal to you that that is not Christianity. Plain and simple. God didn’t say, “Infiltrate the Catholic church and be a missionary from the inside.” No. He said, “Come out from among them to be separate sayeth the Lord because the temple of God which is your body has no fellowship with idols.” What agreement has the temple of God with idols? None. Come out from them and be separate sayeth the Lord and touch not the unclean thing.

That priest is so filthy and unclean and you want him putting a wafer in your mouth? I wouldn’t eat after anything that guy touched. I guess now they’ve gotten more liberal my wife said because originally you had to get on your knees before the priest and he’ll put it directly in your mouth. My wife, she brought me a German Catholic wafer so I could try it yesterday and that thing sticks to the roof of your mouth like nothing else. It’s not even bread. What is it? It’s almost like foam. Who knows what I’m talking about? It’s almost like a super-thin [inaudible 01:10:35] foam and I put it in my mouth and had it stuck to the top of my mouth and then she said in the church when she was a kid to get on your knees and he’ll stick that into your mouth and I was like taking bites out of this. She’s like, “No. You’ve got to put the whole thing in your mouth.” She’s like, “Send this guy to the stake. This guy is a heretic. Look at him nibbling at it. It blasphemy.”

She showed me that the doctrine is sideways to put the whole thing in your mouth. I put the whole thing in my mouth and then it clings to the roof of your mouth. She said, “You have to do it carefully. You don’t want a scene going trying to get it off.”

That’s Jesus according to them. That literally Jesus that you got in your mouth. What kind of a weirdo doctrine is that? It’s a cult. Here is what I always tell people. If nobody had ever heard of Catholism and you said, “I’m part of a religion where there is guy who wears a funny hat and a dress and whatever he says trumps the Bible and we basically eat human flesh and drink blood. It’s not symbolic. It’s a cracker and it’s wine but then the priest says some words and it becomes flesh and blood and literal.” They don’t say it’s symbolic friends. It’s called trans-substantiation. They say it’s literal.

That’s why they hold it up and … I experienced the wafer and I don’t understand how anybody could think that these are Christians when it has nothing to do with New Testament Christianity. Then to see people get sucked in by the Orthodox church which is the same thing or to see people get sucked in some of these Protestant churches where it’s the same thing and they wonder with great admiration … not the blood of the saints of Jesus … but they wonder at stained glass and the gold and the riches. You’re no different. If you say, “I just want …” You talk to these Orthodox and these Catholics … “I just walk into the church, I just knew it’s the house of God because it’s just so beautiful and the music and the pipe organ and the stained glass. It’s such an experience. It’s so beautiful. It’s not like the strip mall where Pastor Anderson preaches.”

Here is the thing about that though. I can take you down somewhere and I’m sure we can go to some wicked place tonight, go to some bar room somewhere, for example … go to a casino … we go to one of these casinos around here somewhere and I bet you I can find you some beautiful gorgeous woman to show you and say, “Here. How can this be wrong? Look how good she looks. How can this be wrong to take this woman instead of your wife to bed tonight? Why don’t you take this whore with you? Look how good she looks. Look at the gold and the silver and the precious stones. Look at her great beauty. Wonder with great admiration,” but it’d be a filthy whore.

You know I could show you some outwardly beautiful women tonight. If we went out looking in the dark places of this city, we can find some gorgeous, beautiful women for you tonight but you know what, they would be filthy whores on the inside. Is that make it right? Whoa. Slow down on those “Amen’s”. That wouldn’t make it right, would it? It’s no different. It’s absolutely not different at all. It’s exactly what you’re doing. You’re walking into a whore house when you walk in … it’s a spiritual whore house and you’re like, “but look at the beauty. Look at the beautiful babes.” What in the world is wrong with you? You’re adulterous in your heart. Go home to your wife.

The voice of a stranger. That’s what the Catholic church represents. The strange woman. Not the bride, not the wife but the hooker. That’s what it represents tonight and it’s always been that and it always will be.

Jeremiah’s prophesies about the end time Babylon:

Jer 50:1 “The word that the Lord spake against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet.”

God reveals through Jeremiah where the end-time nations will come from who will be responsible for destroying Babylon:

Jer 50:3 “For out of the north there comes up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast.”
Jer 50:41 “Behold, a people shall come from the north, and a great nation, and many kings shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.”

Babylon becomes a disgrace, the weakest/hindermost of nations:
Jer 50:12 “Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.” Note the word Mother indicates that Babylon will originate from some other previous nation/empire.

It’s God’s wrath that destroys Babylon Jer 50:13 “Because of the wrath of the Lord it shall not be inhabited, but it shall be wholly desolate: every one that goeth by Babylon shall be astonished, and hiss at all her plagues.” Note the appalled reaction of the people towards the destruction of Babylon. Jer 50:26 “Come against her from the utmost border, open her storehouses: cast her up as heaps, and destroy her utterly: let nothing of her be left.”

Note the type of warfare that will be used for the destruction of Babylon (Jer 50:29)
Jer 50:14-15 “Put yourselves in array against Babylon round about: all ye that bend the bow, shoot at her, spare no arrows: for she hath sinned against the Lord. Shout against her round about: she hath given her hand: her foundations are fallen, her walls are thrown down: for it is the vengeance of the Lord: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do unto her.”
Jer 50:29 “Call together the archers against Babylon: all ye that bend the bow, camp against it round about; let none thereof escape: recompense her according to her work; according to all that she hath done, do unto her: for she hath been proud against the Lord, against the Holy One of Israel.”  Note how Babylon “sinned against the Lord”? (Rev 18:2-3)

Jer 50:37 “A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed.”
From the above we can conclude that Babylon will be wealthy (full of treasures), filled with “all the mingled people that are in the midst of her” (Jer 51:9) and weak men of no courage. (Jer 51:30)

Jeremiah 50 & 51 – QUESTIONS:

Will the nation that will be the end-time Babylon ever be rebuilt again?
Jer 50:39 “Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation.”
Jer 51:62 “Then shalt thou say, O Lord, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever.”

How will Babylon be destroyed? (Jer 51:1)  How was “Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed”? (Gen 19:24-25) Jer 50:40 “As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the Lord; so shall no man abide there, neither shall any son of man dwell therein.”

What do you think is the meaning of a “destroying wind” in this context?
Jer 51:1 “Thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, and against them that dwell in the midst of them that rise up against me, a destroying wind;”

Jer 51:6 “Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the Lord’s vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.”
Jer 51:45 “My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the Lord.”
Do you agree that “fleeing out of the midst of Babylon” agrees with Rev 18:4?
What do you think is “the time of the Lord’s vengeance”?

Jer 51:7 “Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord’s hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.”
Why are the nations that will come against Babylon “mad”? (Rev 18:2-3, Rev 14:8, Rev 17:4)

Jer 51:8-9 Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed. We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.
How long will it take for Babylon to be destroyed? (Rev 18:10, 17, 19)
What do you think is the meaning of “let us go every one into his own country”? (Jer 50:37)

Jer 51:30 “The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken.”
x) What does this verse say about the men in Babylon? Jer 51:37-39 37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant. 38 They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as lions’ whelps. 39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.
Does “a dwelling place for dragons” correspond with “habitation of devils” (Rev 18:2)?

Jer 51:42 “The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.”
What could the meaning of “the sea is come upon Babylon”?

Jer 51:53 “Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the Lord.”
What does this verse say about Babylon?

Jer 51:63-64 “And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates: 64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.” Does this sound familiar? (Refer Revelation 22)

References: Other than the sermon in the MP3 link, all interpretations are personal.

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